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Old 12-04-2006, 04:12 PM
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Smile God Loves Diversity

We are all God's children. God loves gay men, lesbians, bi-sexuals and transgender. He loves the poor as well as the rich. God does not care what color your skin is. God loves people who are physically handicapped as well as the mentally handicapped. He loves the young as well as the old. He even loves those with legal problems such as prisoners. He loves those who have addictions. He loves people of other religions, and those who don't believe in Him
God loves us all. God does not discriminate. It can be a cruel world out there but God will never abandon you no matter who you are or how bad you messed up.
Remeber God created the rainbow after the flood and made a promise he will never create a flood that was that bad. We need to remind those Christian Fundamentalists that God loves diversity and He is not to please with those who persecute us and other minorities.

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Old 12-04-2006, 06:37 PM
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You know what Christy, sometimes I feel like I am a minority, you see, my immediately family comes from Eastern Europe and for that I have different perceptions of the world, compared to the people who are 100th generation of Americans. When I engage in conversations with them, they don't understand where I'm coming from and I feel like an outcast, but I know that God loves me.
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Old 12-05-2006, 12:14 AM
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Smile hi Sammy,

You are right God loves everyone no matter where we come from. He loves all ethnic backgrounds. Others may consider you an outcast but Jesus spent time with those who considered outcasts.
Where in Eastern Europe are you from? i went to Europe back in 1985 when Eastern European countries were still Communists. i went to West Germany, France, and Switzerland.

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Hi, my name is Christy, otherwise known as rainbowcat. i love dogs too. i am a Christian lesbian who wants to help other GBLT people who are struggling with their faith and their sexual orientation. i am happy to say i have that support in a gay-affirming church called Forgiving Heart CCC
i believe God loves His GBLT children. why would He create a rainbow.


God Bless,
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Old 12-05-2006, 12:23 AM
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You are right God loves everyone no matter where we come from. He loves all ethnic backgrounds. Others may consider you an outcast but Jesus spent time with those who considered outcasts.
Where in Eastern Europe are you from? i went to Europe back in 1985 when Eastern European countries were still Communists. i went to West Germany, France, and Switzerland.

peace,
Christy
I was born in New York, but my parents are from Russia. I had two uncles who were imprisoned for being Christians by the Communist regime. I guess, this is why I take the issues of religious freedom more seriously than other people. I have been to France and Germany. I learned that in Germany, they have a special social program for gays and lesbian couples.
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Old 12-05-2006, 05:52 AM
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I learned that in Germany, they have a special social program for gays and lesbian couples.
You know, here in the United States, the Supreme Court has set a precedent that separate is not equal.
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Old 12-05-2006, 12:33 PM
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Hello everybody,

There have been a lot of discussion about power, laws, agendas, etc. I decided to share with you a fable, written by Russian classic writer Ivan Krylov and the same fable with identical subject that was written by a French author Jean de La Fontaine. It's called "Elephant, the Painter."

Once upon a time, the Elephant created a painting of nature. On it, he included a forest background with a beautiful meadow and a lake in the front. He decided to send his painting to the museum, but before accomplishing it, he called up the art critics in order to hear their professional opinions. They were the Crocodile, the Penguin, the Field Mouse, and the Pig. Since they all came from different geographical backgrounds and had different tastes of food, they all complained about that the painting was missing something from their "cultures." The Crocodile complained that the painting did not have palm trees, the Penguin was curious why there were no ice and snow, the Field Mouse was obviously upset for the lack of fields, and the Pig advised the elephant to include acorns on the painting.

The Elephant listened to the animals' advices and decided to do another painting, so he could please everybody. His new painting contained palm trees in snow next to icebergs, together with desolate fields with acorns spread around them. The Elephant also included a barrel of honey on his painting because he heard rumors that the Bear, who was a chairman of the committee, decided to come and take a look at it. When the animals came back, they all said about the Elephant's picture: "This is the biggest ugliness we ever seen in the field of art!"

The moral of this fable goes like this: My friend, don't be like this Elephant. You should be sensitive to the differences of opinions and advices, but be wise about it, because you can't please everybody, however, if you become too concerned about pleasing everybody, in the end, you will do a great deal of harm to yourself.

To me, the Elephant is the lawmaker and the painting is a country where people with different beliefs and opinions live. The lawmaker is trying to legislate laws that all people in the country would agree about, but in reality, it is hardly possible. So, the lawmaker is worried how not to mess the country up.

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Old 12-05-2006, 12:47 PM
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To me, the Elephant is the lawmaker and the painting is a country where people with different beliefs and opinions live. The lawmaker is trying to legislate laws that all people in the country would agree about, but in reality, it is hardly possible. So, the lawmaker is worried how not to mess the country up.

It's possible that the elephant is the biggest animal and just throwing his weight around.
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Old 12-05-2006, 01:29 PM
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It's possible that the elephant is the biggest animal and just throwing his weight around.
To tell you the truth, Steve, this sounds very funny. But if the elephant was a real person, he would be gravely offended by this. Talking about sensitivity.
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Old 12-05-2006, 01:50 PM
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To tell you the truth, Steve, this sounds very funny. But if the elephant was a real person, he would be gravely offended by this. Talking about sensitivity.

Please. It's not about weight. It's about Perceived importance. the elephant in your fable makes it sound like dialogue is of no value, and thus everyone should just go along with what the elephant desires, ignoring all other animals. It's a poor analogy because art is considered to be an individual's vision, not a group effort (at least in painting.) You're talking about society and government, not artistic endeavors.
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Old 12-05-2006, 02:23 PM
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the elephant in your fable makes it sound like dialogue is of no value, and thus everyone should just go along with what the elephant desires, ignoring all other animals. It's a poor analogy because art is considered to be an individual's vision, not a group effort (at least in painting.) You're talking about society and government, not artistic endeavors.
It is true that art is considered an individual's vision but what is considered a good art is a group effort, based on the opinions of various critics. However, the fable is not about artistic endeavors but about generally pleasing people who have different views in one society. I was trying to convey a message how difficult it is, because if you please one group by making a certain law, the other group might get displeased, and it could lead to a civil war. This original fable was written by La Fontaine in order to explain several political insurrections that have happened in France, during the 1600s.
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This original fable was written by La Fontaine in order to explain several political insurrections that have happened in France, during the 1600s.

You've taken up plagiarism?
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Old 12-05-2006, 04:15 PM
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You've taken up plagiarism?
Keltic, dude, chill.

First, he stated who the author was well before you posted this question. Quotations with citations are fair game.

Second, even if he didn't, why are you looking for little nitpicky things to get on his case about? Conducting an online conversation is not the same as submitting an undergrad research paper. We all have to cut each other some slack sometimes.

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