"If you dare to cry faggot..."

[Rick336]

Here's another website that has supplied it's viewers with Michael Swift's essay. In the introduction to the essay they say:

Even though the opening statement is put forth as evidence that the contents are not an "agenda", strictly speaking, a look at the history of the "gay rights" movement in the past decade makes it clear that Mr. Swift is not the only homosexual to have this "dream".


http://www.vcyamerica.org/issues/pag...id=1&pageid=21

[revtj]

I must say, from my perspective, it may be unfortunate that this essay ever saw the light of day. The only reason I have for saying it is "unfortunate" is that it has been so easily co-opted as evidence - possibly the primary evidence - for the "homosexual agenda".

I agree, it is unfortunate that it was ever published.

It was like an engraved invitation to be distorted and used against gay people. The similarity to writings indicting Jews is eery and very telling.

Let's face something: these people hate us and they will use anything they can against us, be it men in leather chaps with exposed butts at the Pride parade, or a false document that just happens to confirm their worst fears. They have already proved they will make up facts and distort research for their own ends, so that should not shock us.

It is NOT about justice or mercy to them. It is about finding a mutual common enemy to project fear and loathing onto, just as it was (is?) with anti-Judaism. Dobson and the anti-gay empire begin with the conclusion in mind, then merely sift through truth and falsehood to construct an excuse for violence against us. And the millions they make in the process keep it flowing.

How we respond is crucial. Has the writer ever publicly retracted the article, or at least made a public statement that this is satire?

One of the sad consequences of the anti-gay lies and distortions is that we are tempted to respond to them in kind. Sinking to their level never helps our quest for equality under the law, it only hurts us and holds us back.

[Rick336]

Originally Posted by revtj

How we respond is crucial. Has the writer ever publicly retracted the article, or at least made a public statement that this is satire?

I don't know. I've never seen anything else from him. But I'm going to do some research to see if I can find Michael Swift. I'd like to interview him to know what was going through his head when he wrote this piece twenty years ago.

I'd also like to know what was going through Dobson's head when he included Swift's essay in his book.

Sounds like a great idea for a documentary.

Rick

[u-dog]

Originally Posted by Rick336

On the Federal Observer website that ladyinred provided us is Michael Swift's essay. Nowhere on this website does it mention that the essay is a satire. Nowhere is there an explanation of when the essay was written or where it came from. The website just supplies their readers with the essay with the following foreward:

FOREWARD: We're certainly not promoting this lifestyle - just sharing information with you folks so that you know what we're up against.

Under the heading of the website is says, "A voice of truth - for America."

Here's the link: http://www.federalobserver.com/archive.php?aid=5371
Rick

I emailed federalobserver.com and suggested that he should tell the truth about the swift piece. here is my email and Jeff's answer. "Will Compton" is a pseudonym of mine.

On Apr 23, 2007, at 10:36 AM, Will Compton wrote:


The Swift document that you have published on your website was originally published AS A SATIRE in a gay friendly publication. It was intended NOT as a battlecry for homosexuals but as a LAMPOON of conservative accusations and opinions of the gay community.

If you are TRULY intending to provide "TRUTH FOR AMERICA" wouldn't it be "truthful" to identify the purpose of the document to your readers? If you are intentionally trying to mislead your readers then what you are about has nothing to do with "Truth" or "America" does it? You are simply lying to accomplish your goals.

As far as I am aware, being an activist for GLBT rights myself, the only "agenda" homosexual activists have is Equality under the law.

Will Compton



Will,
Unfortunately, the reader who sent the column to me did not identify it's source.


From a personal standpoint, I have no use for the continual destruction of America by Special Interest groups attempting to establish their own identities. You may choose to live your own lifestyle but I do not agree with it. As to your idea of Equality, in my opinion it has gone far beyond that. The law is something that you want changed to fit your preferences in life.


You may not agree with me but it is my opinion.


Jeffrey Bennett

[u-dog]

Jeff Bennet of Federal observer says if I send him the publication info on the "homosexual agenda" he will include it with the post. Rick and TJ can you give me whatever you have?

Specifically the publication date of the issue of Gay Community News (is that right?)

Dave

[Rick336]

Originally Posted by u-dog

Jeff Bennet of Federal observer says if I send him the publication info on the "homosexual agenda" he will include it with the post. Rick and TJ can you give me whatever you have?

Specifically the publication date of the issue of Gay Community News (is that right?)

Dave

Dave,

Great letter to Federal Observer!!

The essay was first printed in Gay Community News, February 15-21, 1987. I have no information about Michael Swift but I will do some research on him through Gay Community News.

The following is the heading originally printed above the essay in 1987:

This essay is outre, madness, a tragic, cruel fantasy, an eruption of inner rage, on how the oppressed dream of being the oppressor.



Rick

[tdogg]

Those intent on spreading lies and deceit, must continually use lies and deceit to get their message across. Dobson and others spread lies and deceit regarding GLBT people, in order to support that, they must continually lie and deceive people otherwise they would be caught in their own lie. Eventually they will anyway.

Our lives, experiences and stories stand on their own. We don't need to twist the message of fundamentalists in order to prove our point. We just need to be, that is proof enough. That's what makes it so difficult for the likes of Dobson, he must always be coming up with something that can be easily bought by those who are followers and have no interest in making up their own minds. Eventually he will run out of lies and deceit, at least sufficient amount to purchase the minds of his followers.

The best defense to this spread of lies and deceit - a constant barrrage of the truth - our lives, experiences and stories. We must take this threat seriously, and constantly fight back with our truths.

[revtj]

Jeff Bennet of Federal observer says if I send him the publication info on the "homosexual agenda" he will include it with the post. Rick and TJ can you give me whatever you have?

Specifically the publication date of the issue of Gay Community News (is that right?)

Dave

Wow, this is some worthwhile research...all I can think is google it which I will do. It could be VERY helpful to have this Swift (a pseudonym?... since Jonathan Swift is the patron saint of all satirists?) guy come out and debunk their use of this piece...hmmm...I'll check with Wayne Besen as well, he loves debunking the right-wing baloney...will report back soon.

[Rick336]

Originally Posted by Agape Press

While they claim to want only equal protection under law, the real agenda of homosexual activists is simple: the complete alteration of American society to fit the homosexual view of human sexuality, marriage and family.

Here's what the Agape Press had to say in February 2006 about Michael Swift's essay "The Gay Revolutiuonary." The Agape Press reaches millions of internet viewers:

http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/2/212006a.asp



Rick

[revtj]

CHUTZPAH

(PRONOUNCED HOOTS-PAH) In Hebrew, chutzpah is used indignantly, to describe someone who has over-stepped the boundaries of accepted behaviour for selfish reasons. But in Yiddish and English, chutzpah has developed interesting ambivalent and even positive connotations. Chutzpah can be used to express admiration for non-conformist but gutsy audacity. Leo Rosten in The Joys of Yiddish defines chutzpah as "gall, brazen nerve, effrontery, incredible 'guts,' presumption plus arrogance such as no other word and no other language can do justice to." In this sense, chutzpah expresses both strong disapproval and grudging admiration.

One humorous example of chutzpah is often given as follows: "A boy is on trial for murdering his parents, and he begs of the judge leniency because he is an orphan."

FROM WIKIPEDIA

Another example is homophobic religious groups hawking lies and fake science to argue against civil equality, equating 'them' with death-deserving felons, thus encouraging violence against 'them', and then claiming that THEY have been victimized! From TJV

[Rick336]

RIGHT WING CHRISTIANS ARE TAKING OVER THE WORLD!!

Here's a website called Christian Crusaders that was written as a satirical piece. At the bottom it states that it is "satire".

However, if we used the same definition of "truth" that James Dobson and other right-wing religious leaders use, then it would be perfectly acceptable to delete the bottom paragraph and use this to prove that the hidden agenda of the religious right is to:

1. Teach firearm training in Sunday School
2. Turn ice cream parlors into Christian bookstores
3. Force Bible reading for all citizens
4. Construct quarantine centers for homosexuals
5. Enforce stoning of adulterers
6. Deport all foreigners
7. Shut down all synagogues, mosques, and temples
8. Ban all music except Christian hymns
9. Annex Iraq as the 51st state

But to use this satirical piece to mislead people would be dishonest. It goes against the Christian value of truth.

But that's exactly what James Dobson is doing by including Michael Swift's satirical essay in his book Bringing up Boys and saying that it is an example that homosexuals are a threat to children.

"Moms and dads, are you listening? This movement is the greatest threat to your children." - James Dobson in Bringing up Boys

James Dobson and Focus on the Family are working with churches all across the nation to teach "Truth in American Society". But is Focus on the Family really qualified to teach truth? Is James Dobson a good example of honesty?

Maybe these churches should be aware of James Dobson's definition of "truth" so that they can determine if these "truth" classes are really worth their money.

Here's the satire piece: http://www.thenewcrusaders.com/

Rick

[ladyinred]

Rick, I read it are you sure that was a satire?

[Rick336]

Originally Posted by ladyinred

Rick, I read it are you sure that was a satire?

Yes. Here's what it says at the bottom of the website:

In All Seriousness

Unlike Islam and communism, Christians do not want to take over the world by force. We are demonstrating the foolishness of the Burlington NJ school district, and anyone else who believes that Christians have an agenda like the one presented above. (By the way, the fact that public schools have terrorist drills in the first place should give anyone pause who has school-aged children!) Imagine the outcry if the fake terrorists had been Muslim jihadists or the Earth Liberation Front.


However, consider the Lord's Prayer found in Matthew Chapter 6: "Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven". How is the kingdom advanced on earth? The Apostle Paul makes it clear that our warfare is spiritual, not carnal. While Christians should appreciate the solid reasoning behind the 2nd amendment, our battle weapons to advance God's kingdom are words and ideas -- not guns and bombs. And of course the primary weapon is the Word of God itself, the nature of which is explained in Hebrews 4:12 -- For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

If you are interested in understanding what Christianity is really all about, please visit the following link: Understanding the Plan of Salvation.

DISCLAIMER: Attention FBI, Homeland Security, ACLU, Southern Poverty Law Center, Americans United, CAIR, Jihadists, Amnesty International, NOW, and the Stonewall Union -- the above Agenda is satire to demonstrate absurd paranoia.

Rick

[ladyinred]

Here is a website that I found reprinting the article, but it exposes the lies.
http://rainbowallianceopenfaith.home...SwiftText.html. Personally I wish someone could get hold of this guy and have him publicly denounce the religious right and Dobson for misleading people.

[ladyinred]

Also from what I just read on a aol site Michael Swift is a pseudonym, the author is actually unknown.In other words the name is fictitious there is no gay revolutionary by the name of Michael Swift.http://hometown.aol.com/pdeanbailey/link1.html

Apparently some unknown who has slipped away into oblivion.. where is this revolutionary and his following by the way?

[Rick336]

Originally Posted by Rainbow Alliance

And the funniest thing of all.... the CC pamphlet just happens to be a direct quote (stolen without attribution) from reactionary CA congressman William Dannemeyer's 1989 book, "Shadow in the Land". Dannemeyer's "Gay Manifesto" is a complete fiction by his own admission in the book. It is a paraphrase of what he thinks a "Gay Agenda might be.

Are they saying what I think they're saying? Wasn't William Dannemeyer a right-wing anti-gay conservative?

If so, then this means that a right-wing conservative actually wrote this essay. And now James Dobson and the religious right are using it to mislead people into thinking that our movement is "....the greatest threat to your children."

Rick

[ladyinred]

http://www.liberalslikechrist.org/about/gayagenda.html
Pretty neat website check it out for it's other stuff too

[andrewlittle]

Originally Posted by Rick336

Are they saying what I think they're saying? Wasn't William Dannemeyer a right-wing anti-gay conservative?

If so, then this means that a right-wing conservative actually wrote this essay. And now James Dobson and the religious right are using it to mislead people into thinking that our movement is "....the greatest threat to your children."

Rick

If I remember right, this addresses a different pamphlet and manifesto/agenda. I would research this before making a strong assumption either way.

[Rick336]

Before I jump to any conclusion here...I have ordered William Dannemeyer's book Shadow in the Land: Homosexuality in America from Amazon.com to see if Michael Swift's satirical essay is actually a work of the anti-gay author William Dannemeyer.

I'm finding it hard to believe that even Dobson would be so irresponsible to include an essay attributed to a gay activist in his book that was actually written by an anti-gay congressman.

Surely this is incorrect.

Rick

[ladyinred]

http://www.icwseminary.org/homosexuality.htm

In his book, Shadow In The Land, Republican Congressman William Dannemeyer of California exposes the true agenda of the homosexual movement. According to him, the homosexuals make the following claims:

But now the tide has turned. We have at last 'come out,' and in so doing we have exposed the mean-spirited nature of Judeo/Christian morality. You have been narrow-minded and self-righteous. But with the help of a growing number of your own membership, we are going to force you to recant everything you have ever believed or said about sexuality. Here are some of the things you will be expected to affirm, in the process of renouncing love, marriage, and family:

(1) Henceforth homosexuality will be spoken of in your churches and synagogues as an 'honorable estate.'

(2) You can either let us marry people of the same sex or better yet abolish marriage altogether, since it will give the lie to everything you have said and done in the past about sexuality.

(3) You will also be expected to offer ceremonies that bless our sexual arrangements, whether or not you retain marriage as something to be celebrated in your churches.

(4) You will also instruct your young people in homosexual as well as heterosexual behavior, and you will go out of your way to make certain that homosexual youths are allowed to date, attend religious functions together, openly display affection, and enjoy each other's sexuality without embarrassment or guilt.

(5) If any of the older people in your midst object, you will deal with them sternly, making certain they renounce their ugly and ignorant homophobia or suffer public humiliation.

(6) You will also make certain that all of the prestige and resources of your institution are brought to bear on the community, so that laws are passed forbidding discrimination against homosexuals and heavy punishments are assessed. We expect and demand the same commitment to us that you made to blacks and to women, though their suffering has not been as great as ours.

(7) Finally, we will in all likelihood want to expunge a number of passages from your Scriptures and rewrite others, eliminating preferential treatment of marriage and using words that will allow for homosexual interpretations of passages describing biblical lovers such as Ruth and Boaz or Solomon and the Queen of Sheba.

WARNING: If all of these things do not come to pass quickly, we will subject orthodox Jews and Christians to the most sustained hatred and vilification in recent memory. We have captured the liberal establishment and the press. We have already beaten you on a number of battlefields. And we have the spirit of the age on our side. You have neither the faith nor the strength to fight us, so you might as well surrender now.1

I have shared the last part of this quote with several people, many of whom are Jewish, not telling them where it was from. Each one of them has said that the quote must be from an extremely dangerous group. Not only is it promoting the hatred of others, especially Christians, but is very anti-Semitic. Many of them asked if this was a neo-nazi or white supremacy organization. When I read them the entire quote above, all of them were shocked and mortified.

In the quote above, William Dannemeyer said that the homosexuals claim to "have the spirit of the age" on their side. Let's examine who the "spirit of the age" is. In the Bible, the "spirit of the age" has many names. Some of these names are, "the spirit of the world," "the god of this age," and "the god of th