Another one bites the dust

[revtj]

NOt to disagree with anything that you have said Justin, since I believe it to be true, but I believe that the ironic humor in the situation stems from the hypocricy of conservative Rightwing Christians who pretend to adhere to a strict moral code and who insist on imposing that code onto others and then get caught violating that code.

Yes, dear, and I reserve the right to laugh at that because it is so much more healthy than other responses that are inside me...

Crudely put...A married guy gets sex from a prostitute during the same time he's on the floor of congress arguing against gay rights and for the sanctity of marriage. And he's one of dozens in government doing this...I can either laugh at the blatant hypocrisy or give in to a desire for vengance which I know to be outside the teachings of my sovereign Lord...BUT GOD NEVER SAID I COULDN'T HAVE A GOOD LAUGH OVER THE IRONY OF IT!!!!

I CHOOSE TO LAUGH! These people should be seen for the joke that they are...imho

[NathanATX]

Originally Posted by jhager

Not to ruin the joyous mood, and it is joyous isn't it,

I hope we can all keep this laughter and joy in mind every time we see an LGBT friend cheating on their partner or going home form a long night of clubbing and drinking with yet another sexual partner.

I know it sounds pessimistic but I think of all the fun that we are having watching this story unfold and I think to myself, gee, if Dobson wanted to enjoy this same amount of laughter and celebration all he would have to do is spend 20 minutes driving through boystown Chicago or the Castro in SF or any of the other hundreds of LGBT neighborhoods and he would see much of the same foolishness.

Lets keep in mind that as members of this forum and as members of the LGBT community our actions and the actions of our friends and relatives represent all of us. and most of the time the most difficult people to criticize are ourselves and those who are close to us. I know I'm guilty of that one.

Love and peace to all, oh and please dont think this means I want the celebration to stop, carry on Queen.

-Justin Hager

(The following response is that of Nate Black and does not reflect the opinions, beliefs, etc., of any other person or organization.)

Justin, please don't take this personally. I want to respond to sentiment you've expressed, because it is one that I hear often.

Dobson and the like don't deserve a shame response from us. They have been the ones to abuse the hearts and minds of gay people to deepen their coffers.

There isn't anything going on in gay bars that doesn't go on in straight bars, strip clubs, brothels, swingers clubs, etc. I would rather bet that most gay bars are tame compared to what straight people can get up to.

So pardon me, but sometimes you need to call it what it is. (I edited out my own expletive... I try and save those for my blog. )

Are you going to fault a guy for hooking up with someone he just met? This is the same guy who has been disowned by his family and church. This is the same guy who actually believes bits of the nastiness that he's been told about how God hates him. This is the guy who is desperately looking for love and affection, but absolutely doesn't have the skills to create healthy relationships because he hasn't seen any modeled BECAUSE of bigots like Dobson who have decimated the civil rights of glbt people.

Do you get my drift?

Quit judging others. Quit judging yourself.

Don't be afraid of enjoying your God-given sexuality. And don't be afraid of looking for love.

[tymejumper]

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Yes, unfortunately, people are the same, gay relationships are like straight relastionships. People on both sides of the rainbow lie, cheat on each other and abuse each other. The problem comes that we are held to higher standards becuase we are gay. People are so quick to point out our mistakes in an attempt to keep us in "our places" by aligning us with animals and as a way to not see us as people.

I am faithful to my partner of 2 years, just married her at Pride and have no desire for another. I cherish her and we raise my children together. We both go to work, come home, pay the bills on time and raise our kids to be just as functional(or disfunctional) as straight people. If she were a he, it would be a sucess story. People like Dobson does'nt want to hear about sucess stories, or the gay couple togheter for 35 years. That would make us to human and normal. They love to make a point of all the cheaters or abusers in the gay community, and there are the same here as in the straight community, and say that is how it is for ALL gay relationships. It makes us animals and easier to ignor and give rights to.

It is just egg on their faces if "straight, upstanding citizens" are caught in compromising situations, they can't say that "straight" couples are animals cause then they have to point out they are like us.

I feel really sorry for his wife, I've been cheated on and it hurts. But I have to laugh that the "dirty laundry" of our most upstanding citizens are coming out!