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Old 07-07-2007, 09:37 PM
donalociardha donalociardha is offline
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Default My aim is true!! :)

Hi everyone,

I feel horrible that I sent out weird vibes, I am legit! I think the fact that I skipped all pleasantries and went right into my own personal drama was a bit tactless, Temperamentally I'm a bit cerebral and socially retarded (), so please intepret my post as down to that!

I just want to thank Zerbie, Kara, BrentRichards, U-dog, and Jennifer for giving me the benefit of the doubt! Zerbie and Brent, you translated my feelings to a "T."

Since everyone was dealing with EWT's and simpleman's ideas, I wanted to bring up and clarify the issues that surround the debate on homosexuality in the conservative Catholic (as opposed to Orthodox, Protestant) world and to bounce those ideas off of everyone. In so doing I didn't even stop to think how offensive those ideas are or how they might upset anyone (Just imagine having to digest those ideas for half a lifetime, no cake walk I can tell you!!!)

As for me personally, Daniel got it right when he said it's just a leap of faith. I was hoping that through thorough examination of the issues, I could bypass the leap of faith (I hate leaps, I don't even like to skip! ), but it doesn't look like that's the case.

Before I forget, I do want to say how wonderful I think Soulforce is, and how encouraging it was to me to find such a group who believes in non-violence, which is dear to my heart, as well.

A few guys brought up some great points I would like to dive into further but I'll use other posts for that.

Thanks again!

Donal
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Old 07-07-2007, 10:00 PM
donalociardha donalociardha is offline
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Default Some ideas

Brent, yes my family is from Ireland, fair play for catching the Irish (Gaelic) nomenclature Welsh is a beautiful-sounding language, I wish I could understand it! - I'll have to study a bit sometime. I'm grateful that Wales was spared the Counter-Reformation, you can't wipe your *** in Irish Catholicism without being sorry for it

Kara, I'm really glad you brought up those individuals - I'm going to do a bit more research on them, that will very helpful.

Zerbie, you were right on the money - I'm both afraid of being wrong and of, well, let's say the risk of being wrong!

Dash, you raise a great question about Heaven and heterosexuality. Better than for me to try to explain it in garbled words, do a Google search on "Theology of the Body" if you're interested. Basically the premise is that heterosexuality is the key for understanding...well, basically God and the whole universe! Yeah, it's not easy reading...and has contributed to my turmoil... I must really come off as masochistic,

Have a good one everyone!
Donal
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Old 07-07-2007, 10:18 PM
donalociardha donalociardha is offline
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Default Eve Tushnet's article

Emproph,

You liked Eve Tushnet's piece? I would love to hear your thoughts in more detail. I found her piece incredibly depressing - to me (and maybe I'm way off base here) it seems she's saying develop your friendships, be Catholic, and forget about ever loving someone of your own gender in a sexual way. Am I wrong?

At the risk of coming off as patronizing, her essay is the second one, the first essay is gay-affirming.

Donal
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Old 07-08-2007, 11:35 AM
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Default O come on !

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... do a Google search on "Theology of the Body" if you're interested. Basically the premise is that heterosexuality is the key for understanding...well, basically God and the whole universe!
Donal
Can you say I - DOL - A - TRY? Tell me this is a joke. PLEASE!
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