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Fried Green Tomatoes is probably my favorite.
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My all time favorite gay-themed move has to be “Sordid Lives” AKA “A Black Comedy About White Trash”
Amazon write up….. If you've got a taste for big hair, broad Texas accents, and gay rights, this mixture of white-trash comedy and coming-out melodrama is for you. Sordid Lives starts out as chicken-fried farce, as a funeral is prepared for a woman who died when she tripped over her adulterous lover's wooden legs; about midway the emphasis shifts to a drag queen unfairly held in a mental institution and the dead woman's grandson, an actor in Los Angeles who hasn't come out to his mother. The tone shifts wildly, and the humor depends on your fondness for the white-trash genre--if you like it, this will tickle your ribs; if you don't, it'll fall flat as the panhandle landscape. But it must be said that the cast (including Bonnie Bedelia, Beau Bridges, Delta Burke, and Olivia Newton-John) dives right in, no matter how over-the-top their characters get. I watched it one a week for five weeks and never tired of it. 
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08-20-2007, 07:51 PM
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  I look at Bent as being important as Schindler's list.
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08-20-2007, 10:38 PM
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Another gotta see movie - Flawless. Robert DeNiro and Philip Seymour Hoffman. Excellent!! RdN plays an ex-cop with just a 'tad' of homophobia. PSH plays his gay and sometimes drag queen neighbor. They end up in a 'need each other' sort of relationship and with the growth of that and some well-timed tragedies, they both begin to open their minds and hearts. Such a well-acted flick, you'll forget you are actually watching a movie.
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.....Waiwaiwait! "Summer Storm" - is that the film about the, um, the rowing teams? And was it... German? Because I LOVED THAT MOVIE. *fangirls*
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08-21-2007, 10:23 PM
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My movie list.
*ahems* (But before I get started, may I just say: udogg, Robert deNiro was the BEST thing about Stardust! I quite loved him. However, I had some issues with some of the more subtle misogyny of the film. I'll leave that out for now.) OK, let's see. The first gay-themed movie I ever saw was All Over the Guy, and it still remains special to me. Not much to it - just a sweet little romantic comedy that deals with two guys, both of whom have intimacy issues of some kind - but I really loved it. Plus, you know, Richard Ruccolo is pretty and there are lots of X-Files jokes in there to please my inner fangirl. In the same vein (and put out by the same studio, Lion's Gate Films) is Kissing Jessica Stein. I liked the bittersweet ending to this, but I won't spoil it for you. I wasn't a fan of Brokeback Mountain. I didn't even make it all the way through one viewing on DVD. I did, however, fall in love with Gods and Monsters, starring Ian McKellan and one very lovely Brendan Fraser. It's based on a real person, the director of the old Frankenstein movies, and has a lot to do with exploring the intricacies of real (though non romantic) love. Be forewarned, it does get pretty disturbing in places. I think I remember Love, Actually having some lovely gay-related sequences. I was especially fond of the school superintendent who was so mean on the surface but then you saw her at home with her partner, and what she went through there. And while it was silly and overdone and campy, I actually really liked Straight Jacket. (I think that's the one.) About a gay actor in 1950's Hollywood and how he learned to fall in love for real. It's overdone on purpose, and I can love it for that. Be forewarned that some people might find it an offensive movie for more reasons than one, but I loved Boondock Saints. I loved it for reasons other than its gay-related themes, but it was rather amusing to watch the evolution of a homosexual FBI agent who is rather hostile towards other openly homosexual men (interesting, since he's not in a closet himself; I think he has issues with needing to still appear 'manly' and despises other gay men who don't fit his idea of that) to being someone who is so comfortable with himself and his sexual identity that he actually dresses up as a woman to get a job done. But if you're offended by sexual slurs, this is not the movie for you, since said homosexual FBI man is the number one culprit. (Also, it's very violent and bloody as it has to do with the concept of vigilante justice, and there is a LOT of rather foul language in it. If you asked me to describe exactly WHAT I liked about the movie, I'd have to say it's more the social and psychological questions raised by the characters and the themes. They feel they're carrying out God's justice by bringing down criminals - ie, mafia bosses who, despite charges of rape and murder, keep getting away from the law on technicalities - but is it really okay to kill in order to stop killing?) And, er, I just went off on a complete tangent with that one, but I DID want to make sure there was a caveat emporium attached. And I'll second the recommendation for 'Summer Storm.' That was a gorgeous movie (if it's the one I'm thinking about). I'm sure I've seen several others, but I can't think of them right now. You're probably all quite relieved by that. *laugh*
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08-22-2007, 04:39 PM
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Yes, Summer Storm is the German film about the rowing team.
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You've been on my mind, how have you been? Yet another movie to add to my list, and this one sounds good...so does the one Zerbie mentioned "A Very Serious Person." It's good to have some recommendations from people you respect and admire. I also enjoy watching something a friend recommends because it gives me more insight into that person. Funny you wake this thread up again...I went to Barnes and Noble on my lunch break and found a whole section of dvd's dedicated to Gay and Lesbians. Neat. I found two that have been mentioned several times on this thread, "Latter Days" and "Summer Storm" (I'd have gotten Summer Storm just because it's foreign and I tend to enjoy foreign films). I started watching LD on my portable dvd player over lunch. So far, pretty good...they're trying anyway with pretty pictures that are not too gratuitous, so far it's a b on my scale, but in fairness, I haven't finished it. I wish more of you had seen "A Home at the End of the World." It's a Canadian film that I stumbled on at Target...I had no idea it was gay when I bought it, gaydar must have been on high that day, imagine my surprise.  Anyway, thanks for the new suggestion, by your description, it sounds like a good one. paul
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09-07-2007, 01:35 PM
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Thanks Dave, I've never heard of it. Another movie to add to my long Netflix queue.
(I have about 50 movies in my queue, not quite the 200 that Brent has.)And Paul, have you still not signed up for Netflix? Get over to their website an sign-up right now. I'm going to sit here and wait until you do. You can get any movie ever made (almost). It is a lot cheaper than buying plus more environmentally friendly. I'm waiting!Another movie I liked that I had forgotten about is C.R.A.Z.Y. It is about a family of five sons in Quebec. Zack (the "Z" in CRAZY) is gay. He and his father have to come to terms with it. It is a bit heavy at times, but well acted and not tragic like so many gay themed movies. Tu Amigo, Pablo
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Okay...  I cannot join netflix and watch gay movies at home because that would offend my wife...so, I watch the occassional movie at work on my lunch break. Maybe someday... paul
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I won't lie, I skipped down half of the second page, cause I was getting too excited.
For starters, I was pleasantly surprised to find that But I'm a Cheerleader is totally available in ten minute clips on youtube. Granted, not the ideal way to watch a movie, but might show you that it is worth renting. As for Priscilla, that's probably my favorite EVER. And I would disagree that it's just a silly romp and argue that it's got a lot more REALness than To Wong Foo (which all my friends love because they haven't seen Priscilla yet). I'm also partial because they include a transperson, and real drama instead of whatever the opposite of "comic relief" would be. I think on an entertainment level, it's pure gold. And on a cinematic level: also genius! The costumes were award-winning, so that ought to say something. (Yes, riding the shoe might be one of my two or three favorite scenes because it's just so pretty to watch).I think that's part of the thing with Brokeback is that it's gorgeous cinematically, but...it's not plot-focused. And it does have a tragic ending which I REALLY need to be in a mood for without just getting angry. (see documentary recs) In defense of QAF: there are MANY valid criticisms of the show, and I acknowledge those. I'm able to look past them, however, because of the draw of the fantasy of having these Queer characters (not just gay, mind you) who live in a queer world. All the time. Whenever we see them in the straight world, they're really just visitors, not too attatched to anything. I guess in the extras one of the actors actually said something after a line about what he'd do to straight people "That is if I could find one in this big queer world of ours". I wasn't so much a huge fan, but a friend likes Velvet Goldmine particularly as a source of Gay Myth. (She's a film minor...she eats this stuff up )I wanted to add as documentaries: It's Elementary (A PBS docu on schools that teach kids of varying ages about GLBT folks) Celluloid Closet (meta-movie! It's about the history of GLBT representations on film: the only downside is that it's...dated. It stops in the 90's somewhere I think. One of the things it does mention is a large phase of movies wherein there's queer characters, but they have to die, or in some other way be "punished" at the end.) </fanboy ranting>
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 It's a very good movie. I loved Mick Jaegger in drag. Ian McKellan was outstanding as usual.
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There is a scene when two men who have been sent to a concentration camp are being forced to move large rocks back and forth in this huge yard. It was pointless work, meant to break them down. They were lovers... yet couldn't touch one another... ever... for fear of being shot. On one of their "3 minute breaks" from moving rocks, they are standing at attention and speaking softly to each other. One of them starts to break down... he can't continue living like this... he's desperate to be held. Then the most intimate, loving and erotic dialogue I have *ever* heard begins to take place... as the other man tells the weaker one to "close his eyes"... "do you feel my hands pulling you close" "do you feel my kiss on your neck" rent the movie.
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09-11-2007, 07:24 PM
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YES! What a great scene!
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So happy to find another Priscilla fan here! I that movie so much. And I can't believe I don't own it.
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Brent!!! You posted virtually MY List
OMG!
That's amazing. I love every one of those. WE have something in common! One of my favorite moments is in Big Eden when Henry shows Pike his painting of the Pleiades and then Pike goes into this beautiful story of his myth of their formation. It's lyric. Don't you think? Did anyone notice a very funny thing when Spider-Man II was released? I saw it in a theater at Emeryville, CA, near Berkeley, Pixar's hometown. There’s an hilarious inside joke just for the gay guys. It was so great to get the joke, laugh & see all the straights look around bewildered — what was so frickin’ funny? Great way to find out who the gays are in the movie house! The homoeroticism of Spidey is of course obvious and Raimi is gay after all. Toby Maguire’s webspinner’s shootin’ blanks — that itself is hilarious — so he can’t swing out to save the night and has to use the elevator. Hal Sparks — who plays loveable gay boy next door Michael in Queer as Folk on Showtime who is also a comics hero FREAK! — is gonna walk his dog and steps in with Spider-Man. Michael would be AMPED to actually meet Spider-Man. But instead of making a fool of himself he plays it super-nonchalant. BWHA-HA-HA-HA. Sparks: “Cool Spidey outfit.” Maguire: “Thanks.” S: “Where’d ya get it?” M: “Uh, I made it.” Ge-ge-ha. S: “Hm. Looks uncomfortable.” M: “It gets itchy. … And, it rides up in the crotch a little bit, too …” He-he-he. Ok, so I think you have to be a gay male to think it’s funny … There's three really memorable Star Trek: The Next Gen episodes that help me come out. Season Three, Episode 25, Transfigurations, Stardate: 43957.2, a US Paramount television series created by Gene Roddenberry, teleplay by Rene Echevarria, directed by Tom Benko, original air date June 4, ©1990. Season Four, Episode 23, The Host, Stardate: 44821.3, a US Paramount television series created by Gene Roddenberry, teleplay by Michel Horvat, directed by Marvin V. Rush, original air date May 13, ©1991. Season Five, Episode 17, The Outcast, Stardate: 45614.6, a US Paramount television series created by Gene Roddenberry, teleplay by Jeri Taylor, directed by Robert Scheerer, original air date March 16, ©1992. ---------------------- Episode: Season 03/25—Transfigurations Original Air Date: 06/04/90 Stardate: 43957.2 Synopsis: When the Enterprise discovers a severely injured humanoid in the wreckage of an escape pod, Geordi volunteers to have his nervous system hooked up to the stranger's, in order to stabilize him. During the process, a wave of visible energy is transmitted from the humanoid to Geordi. Dr. Crusher holds little hope for the recovery of the patient she has dubbed "John Doe," but he soon begins to exhibit amazing recuperative powers. While his damaged tissue is repairing itself at a remarkable rate, "John's" undamaged cells are mutating in a manner incomprehensible to the doctor. Evidence surrounding the pod's wreckage indicates that it was involved in a battle, but when "John" awakens, he is unable to remember anything from his past. When Picard tells him that they have nearly determined the coordinates of his origin and that he will soon be returned to his planet, "John" experiences a sense of fear and tells Picard that he thinks he was trying to escape his planet, but cannot remember why. Meanwhile, "John's" presence seems to bring a sense of serenity to the crew members he is in contact with, particularly Geordi. "John" then exhibits remarkable powers when he heals O'Brien's dislocated shoulder with a touch of his hand, which emits the same wave of visible energy that entered Geordi. "John," however, is soon plagued by intermittent bouts of severe pain which frighten him into trying to steal a shuttlecraft. When Worf tries to stop him, "John" suddenly convulses in pain and then pulses into a large flare, knocking Worf off a catwalk to the deck below. Dr. Crusher's examination of Worf shows a broken neck and no vital signs, but when "John" touches him, a glow of light again emanates from his hand and Worf is completely healed. When Dr. Crusher reports that "John's" rate of cell mutation is increasing, he fears that he will be dangerous to the crew and asks Picard to let him leave. However, their conversation is interrupted by the approach of an unidentified vessel which begins scanning the U.S.S. Enterprise. The commander of the ship, Sunad of Zalkon, demands the return of "John," declaring that he is an escaped prisoner sentenced to death for acts of agitation. Having no memory of the past, "John" can neither confirm nor deny the accusation, but offers to surrender in order to prevent endangering the U.S.S. Enterprise. When Picard refuses to turn "John" over, the entire crew of the U.S.S. Enterprise is suddenly struck with paralysis. Realization of his past slowly dawns on "John" and he calmly departs for the Bridge where, by touching a console, his energy spreads to cover the entire starship and heals the crew. With a wave of his hand, "John" brings Sunad onto the Bridge and explains to Picard that his species is on the verge of an evolutionary change and that the rulers, fearing a loss of power, began to destroy the first members to go through the metamorphosis. Sunad is then returned to his ship and "John," having evolved into a form of energy, prepares to return to his people to spread the word of the coming rebirth. ----------------------- Episode: Season 04/23—The Host Original Air Date: 05/13/91 Stardate: 44821.3 Synopsis: Beverly Crusher becomes romantically involved with a Trill ambassador who is being escorted by the U.S.S. Enterprise to mediate a dispute in the Peliar system. As the starship approaches its destination, Riker volunteers to shuttle the ambassador, Odan, to Peliar to meet with representatives of the planet's Alpha and Beta moons, which have armed for war against each other. Shortly after Riker and Odan depart, a ship opens fire on them, critically injuring Odan and forcing their return to the U.S.S. Enterprise. Back on board, Beverly's examination of Odan indicates that a parasite is invading his body. As she prepares to remove it, she is shocked when Odan stops her, revealing that he is the parasite, and his body is merely a host. The parasite, not the body, is what must be saved. While Beverly struggles to accept the fact that the handsome man she fell in love with is actually a small purplish lump of tissue, the Enterprise contacts the Trill for a new host body for Odan. Unfortunately, the situation in the Peliar system cannot wait and requires Odan's immediate attention. With this in mind, Riker volunteers his body to serve as temporary host to Odan so he can complete his mission. Beverly is successful in transferring Odan into Riker's body, but cannot get used to seeing him as Riker and is unable to relate to him as a lover. Odan sadly agrees to stay away from her if his presence causes her pain. Soon after the transfer, Riker's body begins to experience severe physical pain. Odan proceeds with the meeting anyway, and learns that Beverly's discomfort with the notion that he exists within Riker is shared by the representatives of Peliar's moons. They suspect the odd scenario may actually be a plot by Starfleet concocted to enable the organization to impose its own agenda on the Peliar situation. Luckily, Odan is able to convince the Beta representative to accept him and proceed with the negotiations, and the Alpha representative agrees to have an answer within eight hours. Later that day, Beverly arrives at Odan's quarters. Overcome by her desire for Odan, she looks past Riker's body and falls into her lover's arms. The next morning, as he prepares for the mediation, Odan tells Beverly that his presence has become a threat to Riker's body, and makes her promise to remove him after the meeting. The dispute is settled quickly, and Odan returns to Beverly to be surgically removed from Riker's body. The operation goes well, but Odan's own life is endangered when the Trill ship carrying his new host body is delayed. The U.S.S. Enterprise sets off at warp speed to intercept the ship and save Odan. As the situation becomes critical, Worf announces that the host has arrived and Beverly is dismayed when he ushers in a beautiful young woman. After she transfers Odan into the female body, she sadly explains to her lover that she cannot adjust to the constant change and uncertainty and must end their relationship. Odan accepts her decision and, after the two exchange vows of love, Odan returns to Trill. --------------------------- Episode: Season 05/17—The Outcast Original Air Date: 03/16/92 Stardate: 45614.6 Synopsis: While investigating the disappearance of a J'naii shuttlecraft, the crew finds reason to believe the missing ship is stranded in an abnormal pocket called "null space." Riker and Soren, a member of the J'naii race, begin preparing to rescue the craft, and the two strike up a friendship. Their relationship develops quickly as the pair question each other about mating habits, since the J'naii are androgynous and do not identify themselves as either male or female. Despite this difference, sparks begin to fly between them. Heading toward the null space in a shuttlecraft, Soren wonders to Riker if a J'naii and a human could be sexually compatible. She then tells him that this would be illegal in her society, where gender-specific relations are strictly forbidden. However, after she is injured during the mission, Soren becomes bolder. She insists on completing the mission, and also insists taking an even greater risk by telling Riker that she is attracted to him. The following day, Riker and Soren locate the J'naii shuttlecraft and successfully load the injured J'naii onto the ship. Soren's colleague Krite thanks Riker for his help and invites Riker to join them for a celebration that evening. As Soren and Riker say a discreet goodbye, Krite notices the sparks between them. Later that evening, Soren and Riker sneak away from the dinner for a walk in the woods, where, hidden from everyone, they exchange a passionate kiss. Continuing to work together to remove the J'naii shuttlecraft from the null space, Riker and Soren present a purely professional front to the crew. However, when Riker arrives at Soren's quarters for a pre-arranged meeting, he is informed that she has been taken into custody as a result of their relationship. Riker finally finds Soren in a civic chamber, sitting before a panel of judges. After admitting to her belief of being female, she is taken away by guards to be brainwashed. Desperate, Riker concocts a plan to rescue Soren and returns to the planet to find her. Unfortunately, when he does locate her, he is too late. Having already undergone psychotectic therapy, Soren no longer has any belief in gender differences or any romantic feelings for Riker. Sadly, Riker returns alone to the U.S.S. Enterprise.
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Nice thing about Big Eden is that its such a family movie ... I could watch that with my kids, my straight friends, etc ... it's powerful in its very NORMAL portrayal of gay love. (NORMAL=the same hang ups and neuroses as everyone else). I think the fact that it takes place in such a small village (of complete yokels, like I grew up with [yokel is a term of endearment here, not an insult ... I love my yokel heritage]), which then consciously chooses to be an affirming family, is also powerful. I'm sure we have many things in common.
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