Bisexuality and the Conservative Agenda

[Zerbie]

In church today, the talk was about becoming aware of how our own behaviors and words are reflected back to us in our relations with others in the world. He said (I am paraphrasing very loosely) that sometimes we feel frustrated and misunderstood because we know our own good intentions, but for some reason other people are not 'getting' us, and we end up in conflicts yet we don't understand why. The 'why,' he said, was us. The way we act and speak elicits a reaction from the people around us that mirrors the energy we have put into the world.

As the morning progressed, I thought of ways that concept applied to me. And I also thought immediately, with sadness, of Donny. I am glad I decided not to let the ugly words coming from Donny's mouth (well, realistically, that is *keyboard*) persuade me not to go. I had a wonderful time.

[tymejumper]

Originally Posted by Donny

And even in the most hedonistic of straight bars, it is hardly likely that a man or a woman will have sex with dozens and dozens of differnt people in one night.

Beg to differ, but I worked as a bartender for 10 years before I became a rehab therapist and the things I saw amazed me. I saw STRAIGHT women going home with many different men in one night. I saw take girls into the parking area and screw them and come back in for another one, I heard about conquest after conquest they made the night after it happened. I saw one couple make out and fondle each other to the point we had to kick them out, just before the woman orgasmed in the booth seat(by hand of course).

Even in the most hedonistic of GAY bars would a man or woman hardly have sex with dozens of other people, either in one night or a week! If you believe that load of crap, then you obviously didn't pass math class! Lets do the actual math here......

12 hours in a night(yes, I know it's probably less, but 12 is an easy number)
One dozen people to have sex with that night, that's one an hour. Lets count in 15 to 20 minutes of foreplay, then actual intercourse, oral sex or anal sex, aproximately 20 minutes. That leaves 20 minutes give or take a few to get your clothes on, wash up, pee, leave, and get the next one to your bed. We are not even counting the refractory period a man needs after orgasm to be able to have an erection again, this varies man to man(average time is 20 to 30 mins from what I have read) so I don't quite understand how someone can have sex with a dozen people in one night. Women take much longer than men to orgasm, some a half hour or more and many are so sensitized after sex they can't stand to be touched genitally for quite a while afterwards.

Someone please explain to me how people actually think that gay people sleep with dozens of people in one night. The only logical explanation here is ignorance, pure and simple.

[Rick336]

Originally Posted by Donny

And even in the most hedonistic of straight bars, it is hardly likely that a man or a woman will have sex with dozens and dozens of differnt people in one night.

One conservative religious website I found said that some homosexuals have as many as 5,000 different sexual partners in a lifetime. That's 5,000!

That averages out to hooking up with a different sexual partner every single night for 13 years. Or, every other night for 26 years.

That seems very unlikely.

And as far as dozens and dozens of people in one night? Where the hell is that party? Just kidding.


Rick

[tymejumper]

Originally Posted by Rick336

One conservative religious website I found said that some homosexuals have as many as 5,000 different sexual partners in a lifetime. That's 5,000!

That averages out to hooking up with a different sexual partner every single night for 13 years. Or, every other night for 26 years.

That seems very unlikely.

And as far as dozens and dozens of people in one night? Where the hell is that party? Just kidding.


Rick

Where the heck was I when all the lesbian sex was going on?! oh man, it's so unfair!

[matthewspeed]

Originally Posted by Rick336

One conservative religious website I found said that some homosexuals have as many as 5,000 different sexual partners in a lifetime.

Sheesh! That many men would kill me! But it would be a fun way to go! LOL!!

[NathanATX]

Originally Posted by Donny

Gay Pride parades are a good place to start. As a conservative Christian, what happens "in the streets" at those "celebrations," lends support to the anything goes nature of the GLBT culture that many of us parents (and not just Christian parents) teach our children is harmful to their future. And even in the most hedonistic of straight bars, it is hardly likely that a man or a woman will have sex with dozens and dozens of differnt people in one night. If Christians heard the GLBT community talk about abstinence as an important issue TO Gay Marriage, this would dispell the recruitment and pederasty aspect of what many of us see as happening "in" the Gay community TO our children. And on another note, this "questioning youth" aspect of the GLBT community that you neglected, are there ANY instances where a GLBT (PFLAG or GLSEN authority) shows a "questioning youth" that they are NOT indeed G,L,B or, T? Any such examples would go a long way to dispelling uneasiness. I don't visit Gay websites like PFLAG and GLSEN, but wouldn't mind if morality was anything similar to what I see in the Christian worldview.

Tulsa's first night-time pride parade happened last Saturday. Watch the video and tell me what is so offensive.

http://www.okgnn.net

You have to realize that you compromising your integrity is not the right road to helping someone deal with their "uneasiness."

[NathanATX]

Originally Posted by matthewspeed

Sheesh! That many men would kill me! But it would be a fun way to go! LOL!!

I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.

[matthewspeed]

Originally Posted by NathanATX

I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.:

Well, I would NEED that strength!! LOL.