Ohio Congressman believes Gay leads to mental/physical illness

[hippie4lyfe]

Please read the article and take action by emailing and calling his office.

http://queersunited.blogspot.com/200...spews-out.html

[andrewlittle]

I mean he represents Tiffin and part of Seneca county in the Ohio House of Representatives - not exactly a hot bed of progressive thought. Hmm, actually not a hot bed of thought period.

He is also a co-sponsor, with a bunch of other anal-retentive rural Ohio congressmen, of a bill to outlaw abortion in Ohio.

I think next on the legistlative agenda is a bill outlawing walking upright and another requiring the surgical removal of opposable thumbs. Makes sense - after all, no constituent should have skills that their congresspeople don't have.

[Rick336]

Originally Posted by andrewlittle

I think next on the legislative agenda is a bill outlawing walking upright.....

Ohio Congressman Wagner says:

"As much as some people would have us to believe otherwise, this country was founded on Christian principles."

Oh yeah? Then why isn't Jesus mentioned in the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution?

I've checked. He's not in there.

Rick

[Matt Algren]

Could we get a moritorium on the word 'lifestyle'? Pretty please?

I can't help but feel bad for the guy. I mean, he hasn't even figured out that you never use the Reply All button.

Also from Rep. Wagner (who isn't mine, by the way), we have this wonderful article about how corporal punishment (paddling (spanking)) is a good thing to allow in schools.

Originally Posted by Rep. Jeff Wagner. In 2008, believe it or not

"It takes away local control," he said. "We have to trust the decisions of the local (school) boards."

[pnggrad79]

If this country was founded on Christian principles, it also spawned the Salem Witch Trials, Jim Crow laws, segregation in schools, and let's not forget the national embarrassment of slavery. If all these things are synonymous with a "Christian" nation, then I am ashamed of this country and all it has stood for in the past. When we live up to the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution which guarantees ALL citizens the right to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness", then we can call ourselves an American nation that welcomes differences and ensures freedom for ALL.

Did this guy miss the First Amendment?

[Alecto]

Funny, I thought, (y'know, if we're living the way the founding fathers would have wanted us to) those were only guaranteed to all men.

[Rick336]

Originally Posted by pnggrad79

If this country was founded on Christian principles, it also spawned the Salem Witch Trials....

Good point pnggrad79. Innocent women died in Salem because their government was run on "Biblical principals."

Exodus 22:18 in 19 English translations of the Bible:

American Standard Version "Thou shalt not suffer a sorceress to live."
The Answer: Put to death any woman who does evil magic.
Amplified Bible: You shall not allow a woman to live who practices sorcery.
Good News Version: Put to death any woman who practices magic.
James Moffatt Translation: You shall not allow any sorceress to live.
Jerusalem Bible: You shall not allow a sorceress to live.
King James Version: Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
Living Bible: A sorceress shall be put to death.
Modern Language Bible: Allow no sorceress to live.
New American Bible: You shall not let a sorceress live.
New American Standard Bible: You shall not let a sorceress live.
New Century Version: Put to death any woman who does evil magic.
New International Version: Do not allow a sorceress to live.
New Living Translation: A sorceress must not be allowed to live.
New Revised Standard Version: You shall not permit a female sorcerer to live.
New World Translation: You must not preserve a sorceress alive.
The Promise:Contemporary English Version: Death is the punishment for witchcraft.
Revised Standard Version: You shall not permit a sorceress to live.
Revised English Bible: You must not allow a witch to live.


Rick

[BruceChris]

So men get the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and women, maybe women like Png get the possibility of being put to death?

BruceChris

[mew24]

The Episcopal Church in Savannah has begun to split over the recent events regarding Bishop Robinson. The reason I mention this is that this sort of egocentric entitlement over morality is a habit that dies hard with many literalist Christians. It is very scary and confounding. I am comforted by the newest wave of tolerance that is swelling over this country. We are desperately behind the times in this regard. When I graduated high School in '82, I wish I could have had the option of moving to California and getting married. However, that was fantasy to think of it as being a reality in my lifetime. Well, some fantasies to come true after all. These Congressman are on their way out the door. They know it, they are scared, and can only spew their diatribes as their last dying gasp; really sad for them, great for the country!

[Steven E. Webster]

Originally Posted by Rick336

Good point pnggrad79. Innocent women died in Salem because their government was run on "Biblical principals."

Exodus 22:18 in 19 English translations of the Bible:

American Standard Version "Thou shalt not suffer a sorceress to live."
The Answer: Put to death any woman who does evil magic.
Amplified Bible: You shall not allow a woman to live who practices sorcery.
Good News Version: Put to death any woman who practices magic.
James Moffatt Translation: You shall not allow any sorceress to live.
Jerusalem Bible: You shall not allow a sorceress to live.
King James Version: Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
Living Bible: A sorceress shall be put to death.
Modern Language Bible: Allow no sorceress to live.
New American Bible: You shall not let a sorceress live.
New American Standard Bible: You shall not let a sorceress live.
New Century Version: Put to death any woman who does evil magic.
New International Version: Do not allow a sorceress to live.
New Living Translation: A sorceress must not be allowed to live.
New Revised Standard Version: You shall not permit a female sorcerer to live.
New World Translation: You must not preserve a sorceress alive.
The Promise:Contemporary English Version: Death is the punishment for witchcraft.
Revised Standard Version: You shall not permit a sorceress to live.
Revised English Bible: You must not allow a witch to live.


Rick

Wow! There just is no good way to translate that one, is there? I wonder just what the original author had in mind? What was wrong or offensive by whatever was meant by "sorcery" or "witchcraft"?

Steven Webster

[BruceChris]

It was all HER fault, - Bruce Chris

[Matt Algren]

Originally Posted by Steven E. Webster

Wow! There just is no good way to translate that one, is there? I wonder just what the original author had in mind? What was wrong or offensive by whatever was meant by "sorcery" or "witchcraft"?

Steven Webster

A friend of mine's a (Modern/Centrist/Neo) Orthodox Jew. Here's what he said this week on the verse.

It's a mistranslation of a mistranslation. The best translation would be "a necromancer" or possibly "one who pretends to have powers over the dead in order to fool others". The sort referred to by that passage are, according to what I was taught, people who would claim to communion with the dead and defile corpses as part of their rituals.

Further, that law only has impact when there is a King, a Temple and a Sanhedrin (Court). They have to judge the person. And no, not like Salem