Conversation, was I right?

[CaseyAnne]

This Conversation i had on facebook with someone from Church, my response (was my status) is at the bottom. Tell me what you think...
11:13pmWesley

ok i'll bring it to the lord. How is your walk with the Lord going?
11:13pmCasey

better actually.

I've been praying a lot, and worshipping more full on than ever

and things just feel right
11:17pmWesley

If you dont mind me asking, what about the being the "gay issue". i dont mean to offend but...
11:18pmCasey

Why do u ask? but... what?
11:21pmWesley

well i ask cause you said things are going great so..
11:21pmCasey

they are. and "issue" wouldnt be in quotes, and it isnt an issue.

I will be honest. I am still gay... even if u say that it's not possible for me to be a gay christian, i know i exist so i know it is possible
11:22pmWesley

so your a gay "christian"?
11:23pmCasey

I am a Gay Christian, no quotes around that, and honestly,

Gay isn't even a part of it.

My Name is Casey Anne DUpelle, I am a Christian.
11:24pmWesley

look i dont wanna get u upset, thinking yes, but do you have any plans to ever stop being gay and letting the Lord help you overcome it
11:25pmCasey

Here's a question.
11:26pmWesley

shoot
11:27pmCasey

If someone asked u to stop being white, and let God help you overcome it, what would u say? or how about, stop being a musician? or having brown hair grow out of your head? or anything like that what would u say??

I can change the way i look, dress, talk, act etc. and say "i am straight"

but I will still be a big old LESBIAN it's not something God wants me to "overcome"

it's something he loves,

more than I love him
11:35pmWesley

if someone told me to stop being white i'd laugh and say that's how God made me. It's in my genetics, being gay isn't as much as you want to try and justify it. God repeadly calls homosexually a abomination so i dont know what God your talking about. My God says its a sin, and that now adulter, murderer, or homosexual is going to heaven unless the confess and repent of there sin. dont flip out when you hear this but know you are either a decieved christian who is living in sin and is going to lose her salvation if she stays on the road she's on, or you experienced an emotion sensation that you confused with getting saved. either way, your decieved, sorry but that's the truth. God loves you and he wants to save you and heal you of your wounds if you let Him, but if you refuse than it's your own fault what happens to you next. Your not gonna convince me other wise so dont bother. I love you which is why i tell you this. not to judge you. God bless





My Response:
Sometimes you just want to scream out loud. "Look at me! I still love HIM!" but i know it won't be good enough... because as long as I refuse to change a decision that I didnt make, you wont believe he still loves me for me, as me.... So now, i'm just going to cry in a corner, and hope and pray for enlightenment, on your behalf.

[Pablo Rafael]

Your response was perfect. No one can argue with heartfelt personal stories. The "this is what I am. This is what being a Christian is in my life" response cannot be argued with. Positive personal statements are the best answer.

[scott snedeker]

Originally Posted by CaseyAnne

God loves you and he wants to save you and heal you of your wounds if you let Him, but if you refuse than it's your own fault what happens to you next. Your not gonna convince me other wise so dont bother. I love you which is why i tell you this. not to judge you. God bless





My Response:
Sometimes you just want to scream out loud. "Look at me! I still love HIM!" but i know it won't be good enough... because as long as I refuse to change a decision that I didnt make, you wont believe he still loves me for me, as me.... So now, i'm just going to cry in a corner, and hope and pray for enlightenment, on your behalf.

Excellent! She still carries the violence of Sanctimonious Heterosexist Oppression in her heart, but you responded with compassion for the internal violence she suffers... and you shed tears of compassion for her suffering as well as your own. She was taught this type of spiritual violence and continues to suffer it, because she surrogates it to others. Violence never ends with violence. Only Love and compassion for yourself and the others end violence. This is the ancient truth of Buddha and Christ.

I'm not a Christian, But I believe Christ to have been a genius of awareness of touchstones to the unlimited capacity of the human heart for unconditional love and compassion. I don't believe in Heaven in the sense that Christianity proposes: that certain rules set out by humans determine salvation or damnation. I do not believe that following these "CONDITIONS" to be any more valid than stepping on cracks in the sidewalk.

Nonviolence also means not committing violence against yourself, because by doing this you harm your heart and inevitably you will collateralize pain to others.

Whatever interpretation people may make of a four or more time translation of a second hand report of what Christ said must be reconciled with the touchstones of Unconditional Love, Unlimited Compassion and Absolute Nonviolence. If the interpretataion does not reconcile, it is a flawed
misinterpretation.

The below YOUTUBE Echos in my heart the peace of compassion and nonviolence

[CaseyAnne]

Originally Posted by scott snedeker

Excellent! She still carries the violence of Sanctimonious Heterosexist Oppression in her heart, but you responded with compassion for the internal violence she suffers... and you shed tears of compassion for her suffering as well as your own. She was taught this type of spiritual violence and continues to suffer it, because she surrogates it to others.

He. but thanks, lol.

[Matt Algren]

You responded well.

I would suggest, to be bold, looking into another church, since between this and the meeting with your pastor's wife you mentioned last week (How did that go, by the way?) it's pretty clear that the leadership there has a big problem with this that they're not going to let go. (I love the "I don't want to offend but..." right before he said a bunch of offensive BS. It's darling, it really is.)

I just want you to be in a healthy place, and this church is raising red flags.

[Daniel]

Hi there.

I don't know anything, but I would be very careful. Not fearful. Just careful. As Matt has suggested, I would start looking for a Sanctuary that welcomes you. Something tells me that if you stick around you are going to be crucified.

Love what Scotty wrote about non-violence. Your response was really good. It is hard to argue with heart-felt responses.

[CaseyAnne]

Originally Posted by Matt Algren

You responded well.

I would suggest, to be bold, looking into another church, since between this and the meeting with your pastor's wife you mentioned last week (How did that go, by the way?) it's pretty clear that the leadership there has a big problem with this that they're not going to let go. (I love the "I don't want to offend but..." right before he said a bunch of offensive BS. It's darling, it really is.)

I just want you to be in a healthy place, and this church is raising red flags.

Thanks Matt, for wanting me to be in a healthy place. I know it has a lot of red flags, I continue to attend NLCC because of the worship.. i love the music, it helps so much, and brings me to a safe place in my head if not phyically. I know God will protect me, and eventually as was my prayer he will enlightn others...

[drobs]

Personally I don't let just anyone into my facebook. I wouldn't waste my time with those people.

That's just me.

I don't have enemies but I do hold grudges and won't associate with bitter hateful people.

[CaseyAnne]

Originally Posted by drobs

Personally I don't let just anyone into my facebook. I wouldn't waste my time with those people.

That's just me.

I don't have enemies but I do hold grudges and won't associate with bitter hateful people.

he was cool until he knew i was gay, also he is my brother's girlfriends cousin

[Gennee]

It's amazing that rational people will go into a thither when they discover that you are gay, lesbian, bi, or transgender.

Gennee

[JAbens]

I just joined today and your post is the first Ive read. I want to thank you for sharing that because I am dealing with a similar situation myself. I believe that your message was exactly what I needed to hear today. I loved your response and admire the way you conducted yourself.

[CaseyAnne]

Originally Posted by JAbens

I just joined today and your post is the first Ive read. I want to thank you for sharing that because I am dealing with a similar situation myself. I believe that your message was exactly what I needed to hear today. I loved your response and admire the way you conducted yourself.

thanks, message me if u need to talk.

[drobs]

Originally Posted by CaseyAnne

he was cool until he knew i was gay, also he is my brother's girlfriends cousin

About 12 years ago. I was outed at the church I grew up in. Haven't been back to that church since.

Some of my remaining close personal straight friends (most have moved out of state) still have facebook links to members of that church that treated me horribly. No way am I going to reconnect with those bitter people.

I find it's better just to ignore them.

Now you know this person better. Unless you're going to see this person every day, I'd drop em off my facebook page.

[CaseyAnne]

Originally Posted by drobs

Now you know this person better. Unless you're going to see this person every day, I'd drop em off my facebook page.

if i wasnt afraid to offend people i probably would....
im sorry they treated you badly, but know their is hope... i found it this weekend... well God brought me to it