a thought on gay pride

[bnmoore]

For me the distinction between hubris and spiritual self-confidence is humility. Isn't hubris number one on the list of seven deadly sins? If someone's self-esteem is based on their own piety they most likely got nothin'. Is there a distinction made between prayer from a saint at their alter or a drunk in the gutter?

[scott snedeker]

Originally Posted by BruceChris

Now, go and discuss that for a while.

BC

Hubris in my understanding comes from a root contraction around a limited sense of self. This means "I know that I am a worthless piece of crap and I am going to gratify my pain by making someone else feel more worthless than I do." By doing so I transform from victim to victor."

Hubris uses the assumption that a rapist makes that he is entitled to violate another human being there by going from the lowest ranking human to being above his weaker victim who now exists only for the purpose of this dark grudge-f--k gratification.

Hubris in spiritual practice employs a similar assumption getting its orgin from a root contraction around being "sinful by nature" and similarly gratify this inadequate limited sense of self by making someone else feel more worthless by using religious teaching.

This type of hubris is in the more Classical Greek sense of the word where a mortal falsely claims godly entitlement to judge or abuse.

Self Esteem originates from a comfort with one's self and confidence in worthiness of one's primal spirit as good and valued. Because of good self esteem one see's what one likes in one's self reflected in others. This generates attraction, warm feelings and compassion to other people.

Good self esteem for me comes from opening my awareness to my capacity to love in unlimited ways. I am part of the pattern of life and nature. I am a nexus of phenomenally organized life force connected to the basic primal vital energy that I cannot even begin to characterize but am dazzled by!

[Saru]

As Big Gay Al on Southpark so eloquently put it:

If I have the right to display my homosexuality, they have the right to not agree. (something like that)


I find that happening to myself, but for me its not so much bigotry as it is hypocrisy. It grinds my gears when people judge me when they first meet me, but unfortunately I do it quite often.

[NathanATX]

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/11/24...tion-rejected/

They want civil unions because it's a modern, sensible plan for a relationship and "divorce" is much less icky than for marriage. (my summary)